Animation director Ippei Ichii, who recently worked on ZOMBIE LAND SAGA REVENGE episode 8 at MAPPA, expressed disappointment on his Twitter account today at the rates he was offered to work on a show at MAPPA produced by Netflix. He claimed that he was offered just 3,800 yen (US$34) per cut (for a short scene) for the unnamed series.
MAPPA制作のNetflix作品に参加しているのだけど、単価が1カット3800円とプロデューサーから提示されたらしい。3800~7000円はテレビシリーズの予算だし、これを請けると全体的にアニメーターの単価は下がっていくことになるし、依頼があった場合は15000円以上で交渉するのが最良だと思います(注意喚起)
— 一居一平 (@IchiiIppei) July 2, 2021
In the above tweet, Ichii says a producer for a "Netflix production at MAPPA" offered the animator 3,800 yen (US$34) per cut of animation. Usually, for a TV anime series, Ichii says the going rate is "between 3,800 and 7,000 yen (US$63)" per cut. Ichii was worried that accepting this rate would mean that rates across the board would go down further for animators. His advice is to ask for 15,000 yen per cut (US$135).
In a second tweet on the subject, Ichii says the problem is with Netflix offering such low rates for cuts of anime "when they have so much capital." He claimed that the "rates are possibly cheaper than TV anime." Ichii also followed up by saying that he'd be asked to remove the tweets by the company just a minute after posting.
Another animator, Thomas Romain responded, saying that he believes that what Ichii said is "pretty standard rate used by most of the companies" and that's why he "never worked in Japan as an animator but as preproduction designer because of the cheap rates for genga (key animation)."
私がアニメ始めた40年くらい前のお値段！
— でれすけ (@deresuke1960) July 2, 2021
当時はラーメンいっぱい300円位だった。
Veteran animator Hiroyuki Yamada (key animator on Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, Dropkick on My Devil!) also chimed in saying "[3,800 yen] was the price per cut I was getting when I entered the anime industry 40 years ago. Ramen was only 300 yen back then!"
The only anime produced at MAPPA that Netflix has been directly involved in (and publicly announced) is the recently released Yasuke from LeSean Thomas, who recently appeared at the MAPPA 10th Anniversary Event. Unlike most other Netflix Original anime (such as the MAPPA-produced Dorohedoro), Yasuke was made outside of the production committee system, making Netflix the sole contributor to the series.
Projects such as the Animator Dormitory Project have sprung up to help animators with housing costs while they start out in the industry, helping animators that have since gone on to work on Attack on Titan, Black Clover and many other anime projects.
Sources: Ippei Ichii on Twitter (1, 2, 3), Thomas Roman on Twitter, Hiroyuki Yamada on Twitter
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Daryl Harding is a Japan Correspondent for Crunchyroll News. He also runs a YouTube channel about Japan stuff called TheDoctorDazza, tweets at @DoctorDazza, and posts photos of his travels on Instagram.
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Animation director Ippei Ichii, who recently worked on ZOMBIE LAND SAGA REVENGE episode 8 at MAPPA, expressed disappointment on his Twitter account today at the rates he was offered to work on a show at MAPPA produced by Netflix. He claimed that he was offered just 3,800 yen (US$34) per cut (for a short scene) for the unnamed series.
MAPPA制作のNetflix作品に参加しているのだけど、単価が1カット3800円とプロデューサーから提示されたらしい。3800~7000円はテレビシリーズの予算だし、これを請けると全体的にアニメーターの単価は下がっていくことになるし、依頼があった場合は15000円以上で交渉するのが最良だと思います(注意喚起)
— 一居一平 (@IchiiIppei) July 2, 2021
In the above tweet, Ichii says a producer for a "Netflix production at MAPPA" offered the animator 3,800 yen (US$34) per cut of animation. Usually, for a TV anime series, Ichii says the going rate is "between 3,800 and 7,000 yen (US$63)" per cut. Ichii was worried that accepting this rate would mean that rates across the board would go down further for animators. His advice is to ask for 15,000 yen per cut (US$135).
In a second tweet on the subject, Ichii says the problem is with Netflix offering such low rates for cuts of anime "when they have so much capital." He claimed that the "rates are possibly cheaper than TV anime." Ichii also followed up by saying that he'd be asked to remove the tweets by the company just a minute after posting.
Another animator, Thomas Romain responded, saying that he believes that what Ichii said is "pretty standard rate used by most of the companies" and that's why he "never worked in Japan as an animator but as preproduction designer because of the cheap rates for genga (key animation)."
私がアニメ始めた40年くらい前のお値段！
— でれすけ (@deresuke1960) July 2, 2021
当時はラーメンいっぱい300円位だった。
Veteran animator Hiroyuki Yamada (key animator on Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, Yu Yu Hakusho, Dropkick on My Devil!) also chimed in saying "[3,800 yen] was the price per cut I was getting when I entered the anime industry 40 years ago. Ramen was only 300 yen back then!"
The only anime produced at MAPPA that Netflix has been directly involved in (and publicly announced) is the recently released Yasuke from LeSean Thomas, who recently appeared at the MAPPA 10th Anniversary Event. Unlike most other Netflix Original anime (such as the MAPPA-produced Dorohedoro), Yasuke was made outside of the production committee system, making Netflix the sole contributor to the series.
Projects such as the Animator Dormitory Project have sprung up to help animators with housing costs while they start out in the industry, helping animators that have since gone on to work on Attack on Titan, Black Clover and many other anime projects.
Sources: Ippei Ichii on Twitter (1, 2, 3), Thomas Roman on Twitter, Hiroyuki Yamada on Twitter
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Daryl Harding is a Japan Correspondent for Crunchyroll News. He also runs a YouTube channel about Japan stuff called TheDoctorDazza, tweets at @DoctorDazza, and posts photos of his travels on Instagram.
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